Subject	Carbon generally requires honeycomb to avoid collapse
Posted by	CaliguyPurdue on June 19, 2006 at 3:54 PM
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In Reply To	Ford used those quite a bit with pretty bad results. posted by Kenny on June 19, 2006 at 03:43 PM
Message	under vacuum. Here's a poor shot of a carbon plenum I designed in my formula SAE days... The first was not curved, and had no honeycomb core. It was great until someone closed the throttle hard and it imploded. :) My second revision in the picture was great but was very costly and fragile. While getting tires mounted for Zcon, I had this doozy of a conversation with the mechanic... Tireguy: [looking at emblem] Is this a Twin Turbo? Me: Well, yea. Tireguy: Awesome! How much boost do you run? Me: 14-15 ish. Tireguy: Cool. On both? ROFLMFAO I'll be there in electronic format =). (n/m) - Kenny Good opportunity to erase Kenny ^^^^ :D (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue I'm read-only. (n/m) - Kenny LOL! Well done. (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue
Follow Ups	NZR; open discussion. - ni[X]it 15:13:38 06/19/06 Stock hood has to close =). (n/m) - Kenny 15:20:14 06/19/06 Thanks, I left that out accidentally. - ni[X]it 15:27:54 06/19/06 i'm sure this is a small piece when designing all this but - kryptonite729@VP 15:31:21 06/19/06 That's been a definate concern, thanks. (n/m) - ni[X]it 15:46:33 06/19/06 You can always use the old school spark plug wire - AzHeat 16:04:54 06/19/06 thoroughly agree. - ni[X]it 20:47:17 06/19/06 I would like composite material intake along with - AzHeat 15:36:49 06/19/06 Have you done a fluid dynamic analysis of a stock plenum - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 16:22:18 06/19/06 Extrude honed, no.Extruding doesn't remove too much material - ni[X]it 20:46:22 06/19/06 Not a concern for me, - sfarrah 15:38:04 06/19/06 Now that's just silly :) - ni[X]it 15:48:39 06/19/06 I certainly appreciate the compliments. - sfarrah 16:24:18 06/19/06 I'm thinking of running with HCPCA @ MSR this weekend. - Dallas DamonZ 18:10:23 06/19/06 I've never run with the Porsche club before-how do you like - sfarrah 18:21:40 06/19/06 Re: I've never run with the Porsche club before-how do you l - ni[X]it 20:49:12 06/19/06 yep... even in our own circles it applies. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 21:53:17 06/19/06 Reduced thermal mass, por favor... - CaliguyPurdue 15:32:00 06/19/06 Re: Reduced thermal mass, por favor... - ni[X]it 15:43:08 06/19/06 I agree on the kevlar bit, but glass is under rated IMHO... - CaliguyPurdue 16:01:02 06/19/06 Re: I agree on the kevlar bit, but glass is under rated IMHO... - ni[X]it 16:09:02 06/19/06 There are more prepregs available that you can - CaliguyPurdue 16:19:28 06/19/06 Thoughts and request. - Chase86(WV) 17:42:33 06/19/06 Re: Thoughts and request. - ni[X]it 20:53:35 06/19/06 "weight savings" dawg. It's the shizzle. (n/m) - davidztt 17:59:47 06/19/06 My composite M50 manifold expands at 2 bar (n/m) - F8IZHIS 17:03:09 06/19/06 You can make it plenty strong. - Marshall 19:00:54 06/19/06 Agreed! (n/m) - ni[X]it 20:49:45 06/19/06 Ford used those quite a bit with pretty bad results. - Kenny 15:43:46 06/19/06 Carbon generally requires honeycomb to avoid collapse - CaliguyPurdue 15:54:04 06/19/06 Vrry cool. (n/m) - Kenny 16:02:04 06/19/06 very nice - aliaZ 18:00:07 06/19/06 Thanks! (n/m) - ni[X]it 20:53:58 06/19/06 see inside - sfarrah 15:49:59 06/19/06 -sidebar - Guapo 15:53:42 06/19/06 I've considered this mod and am trying to decide between - sfarrah 16:58:36 06/19/06 Thats the beauty of it. THe oil never leaves the engine. (n/m) - Guapo 17:02:07 06/19/06 2nd (n/m) - aliaZ 17:57:31 06/19/06 I hate you. ;) - ni[X]it 16:04:18 06/19/06 Re: I hate you. ;) - sfarrah 16:43:12 06/19/06 Re: Re: I hate you. ;) - pionkej 17:02:21 06/19/06 Important: read inside; - ni[X]it 17:02:50 06/19/06 What about a plenum like the stocker but with the throttle - CaliguyPurdue 17:30:07 06/19/06 now THAT sounds pretty cool (n/m) - maglito 00:59:55 06/20/06 Explain if you will why the rear cylinders are getting more - sfarrah 17:33:34 06/19/06 That is one way to think about it... - CaliguyPurdue 17:41:05 06/19/06 There is 240 degrees of seperation of intake cycles for - Ash's Z 20:13:58 06/19/06 So how do you explain the airflow difference across the - sfarrah 22:47:44 06/19/06 What airflow difference are you talking about? - Ash's Z 23:34:16 06/19/06 I'll let you and Nick debate this issue. (n/m) - sfarrah 11:30:41 06/20/06 If you have the stocker modeled, play around with adding - CaliguyPurdue 17:37:12 06/19/06 Playing with it would be pointless. - ni[X]it 20:55:33 06/19/06 Good to know... - CaliguyPurdue 02:52:17 06/20/06 Motec? - sfarrah 22:52:46 06/19/06 Re: NZR; open discussion. - PearlWhite300zx 16:18:53 06/19/06 never saw that one before (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 17:51:03 06/19/06 Interesting to see. Requires an electric fan for sure. (n/m) - ni[X]it 20:56:07 06/19/06 I'd like to see single plenum, single TB, & a VNT/VGT turbo (n/m) - F8IZHIS 16:57:37 06/19/06 I'm not looking into more turbo options. - ni[X]it 20:57:50 06/19/06 I hope your doing GAS and not FLUID - bankruptedz 17:34:34 06/19/06 I have a huge library of fluids, gases, and semi-solids. - ni[X]it 20:59:21 06/19/06 How about one that will fit a holley double pumper? (n/m) - RSR 17:44:50 06/19/06 knuckle dragger (n/m) - Guapo 17:56:21 06/19/06 I dated a Holley double pumper once...two thumbs up.... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 19:56:20 06/19/06 lol (n/m) - RSR 17:44:38 06/20/06 Street Avenger? Dominator? Marine? - ni[X]it 21:01:20 06/19/06 Question for you: - Marshall 19:08:22 06/19/06 It's just another piece of the puzzle. - ni[X]it 21:09:46 06/19/06 *aliaz's headwork - maglito 01:12:04 06/20/06 In case you remember this post - govaardz(Aruba) 20:59:55 06/19/06 Re: In case you remember this post - ni[X]it 21:07:54 06/19/06 Re: In case you remember this post - govaardz(Aruba) 21:31:40 06/19/06 I've been kicking a particular design around for a couple of - Ash's Z 00:30:43 06/20/06 not sure how the telescoping thing would work - maglito 01:13:44 06/20/06
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